Ice Lance on Hagara

So our group is 3 heals 1 tank. When the frost tombs drop a healer were comfortable but rushed, not sure why you are 2 healing Hagra. A DPS being below 18K is really not ok. In 378's with a decent understanding of how to play your class you should be able to rock out 18k. With numbers that low even if you get Hagra you are going to have problems latter on. The ice Lances we have picked up by a range or a healer and kept off the tank at all cost. Ice lance plus focused assault will usually kill a tank.

The ice waves are just sloppy play, my group mocks the one person a week who either forgets to run or thinks they can outrun the spawn and dies. Not much you can do about it though. We find it funny now but it was annoying when we were first trying to down the boss. You said you had 1.5 raid teams in the past, it may be time to confront your low DPS'ers and give them a time frame and an ultimatum. Bring up the DPS or promote from your half a raid team into the core team.

Best of luck man.

oh we have full 2 x 10 mans now. The DPS usually isn't that low just not sure why it was last night. Time frame and ultimatum is coming. Seems our DPS gets tunnel vision and not seeing the stacks of Ice lance. Do you all call out if a person has so many stacks of ice lance? What do you do to get rid of ice lance?

I can't comment on the DPS, as I rarely pay attention to that. We also 1 tank and 2 heal this encounter. As far as Ice Lance is concerned, we typically have the healers stand in 2 of them, and then some other range take the 3rd. The damage is easy enough for a healer to stay alive while keeping the tank up, and the other healer can keep himself healed and the other person taking the Ice Lance. Whether DPS is bad or not, properly keeping the Ice Lanced target alive should make that portion of the fight easy enough. When a healer gets targeted by Tomb, the dps just makes that tomba priority, which could be where low dps is an issue.

Love the name hagara... homeworld was an awesome game... other then blizzard games, probably my favorite all-time game. Next to blizzard, THQ is easily the second best gaming company out there.

Gratz on rounding out that second team. If it was one bad night of raiding make sure you don't over react. I usually find its better to under react then over react. People often need time to build muscle memory with a fight and see it all and get comfortable. If it was a bad night chalk it up as such, if it goes on for a couple of weeks then you should begin to be concerned.

Just to put the DPS in perspective for you – and my team is by no means a hardcore team (we’re working on Blackhorn normal, though part of the slow progress was the Attendance Boss crushed us repeatedly over the holidays):

In our last Hagara kill (last week) DPS was:
Frost DK: 29k
Arcane Mage (no legendary): 27k
Assassination Rogue: 21k
Ret Pally (undergeared): 21k
S. Priest: 16k
Ret Pally (Tank in OS): 13k

We have no trouble knocking her down with those numbers – though we’ve done the fight enough that we keep dumb mistakes (i.e., running into ice walls) to a minimum.

As for Ice Lances? I have no idea… I’m melee DPS, so mainly I’m just jammed up her rump. I just know our ranged / healers are doing their jobs and we’re not dying because of them.

basically what I did is I created 3 ranged groups to step in and out of the Ice lance, which worked perfectly. We hit the enraged timer because we lost a melee DPS due to disconnect for the entire fight, but she did go down anyway. With the missing of 1 DPS we will have Zero issues as we did 3 heal it and may try to go back to our original 2 healing it. Each group of ranged had a healer. Thank you everyone for giving me some feedback to work off of.

Congratulations on your kill!